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March Hare
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Is it too late to join?
I'd sure like to try racing the RB4.
March Hare
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This thread has gone all mushy. We need more arguing!
March Hare
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Quote from f4sttr@ck :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTz0fxwYP1o

There is another drift vs grip vid where the drifter won.

Anyone notice the lap time? Looks like 1:44.something... IIRC my standing start laps on the old BL1r were in the vicinity of 1:35 or 1:36 with the XRT. And I'm slow.
March Hare
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Quote from Gills4life :slides into the corner and straightens up on the exit

That's a good definition of a good drift
March Hare
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Quote from Gills4life :Drifting is sliding the car for show, trying to look good and trying to maintain a long slide. Powersliding is sliding the car through a corner to get around it quicker.

Powersliding, atleast all the definitions I've heard before this one, is accelerating hard out of a corner and letting the rear slide. That is one form of drifting. Drift Bible calls it power over.

Drifting is not just show drifting. You have to remember that.
March Hare
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Quote from The Moose :In 99% of 'crying wolf' cases there is a problem.

Yes, 90% have the attention whore syndrome.

I find nothing more disgusting than people who threaten to kill themselves. I believe it's more stresfull for the friends and relatives to live in fear of the suicide than in the aftermath.

If you really want to kill yourself STFU and
Quote from Nike :Just Do It!

And before you all say I don't know WTF I'm talking about I happen to know both kind of suiciders. One friend of our family killed herself by walking into the sea. No threats just a note. Ofcourse everyone was a bit shocked but she did what she wanted to do.
Now a friend of mine had a "friend" who used to call him and threaten to kill himself. My friend always tried to talk him out of it and was all stressed out by the calls.
Now which way is more selfish?
March Hare
S2 licensed
One thing that noone seems to be able to tell me is: Where, or when, drifting becomes "gripping" or "gripping" becomes drifting?

Is it a certain slip angle that differentiates between the two? What is that angle? Because you can't turn a car without slipping. If you have set up toe to have a value different from 0, you can't even drive straight without slipping.

I get the fastest times in BL1 with the XRG by letting it slide through corners. But only a little. If I have to counter steer I loose time. But if I drive like that on a server with the drift point InSim I get no points.

About Initial D.
In the anime, if you watch the whole series, you'll notice a shift in focus from drifting to being fast. This is best noticed in the last races of Stage 4 when our heroes go against Kozo Hoshino and Toshiya Joushima.
March Hare
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About the moisture.

If some of the water is in liquid form when the tyre is cold and as the tyre warms up it evaporates. Then the pressure is increased even more.

Even if the temperature wont reach the boiling point of water in said pressure the water liquid and vapour equilibrium state does change according to temperature.

Whether there is enough moisture in a tyre to achieve this I don't know.
March Hare
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Quote from chavm481 :arnt fins god at driving?

Some of us are pretty darn good. But I wouldn't go as far as calling it divine.

Har har har! Ain't I funny!
March Hare
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Quote from UnknownMaster21 :Second thing, he is not behaving noob as unlike you!

Erm. What excatly are you trying to say?

Quote from -=fly=- :c ya in next decade

So you are going to keep away from these forums for over a year?

That is good news.
March Hare
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Do you have a reading disability? Just asking because you said in the previous thread
Quote from -=fly=- :im gonna just start a new thread bcos this one looks too diffucult to read

Why, for an example, didn't you just edit your suggestion in the previous thread? Why make a new one? Does it make you feel big? Strong? Butch?
March Hare
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Quote from Hallen :So the question that comes to my mind is this: Why do things get hot when flexed?

Friction between the molecules of the matter.
Quote :Do all materials behave the same when flexed?

Yes, all heat up. But the amount differs.
Quote :For example, does metal and rubber create the same amount of heat when flexed the same amount?

Depends on what you mean by "amount". If both are rods of similar dimensions and are bent to the same angle and back the same amount of times then the metal will heat up more. But if you put the same amount of energy into the bending process of both of them then it is a whole different story.

You can try this at home with a piece of copper rod and a small rubber hose.
But be carefull not to burn your fingers on the rod because it can get pretty hot if you bend it fast enought.
March Hare
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Quote from wheel4hummer :You better be joking... I have a front wheel drive American car and it has neither live axles nor leaf springs.

Isn't that because it's really Korean?
March Hare
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Why the heck did you make the same thread twice?
March Hare
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Air temperature inside the tyre, temperature of the rubber carcass and tread temperature are different things.

LFS F9 display shows the air temperature inside the tyre and the temperature of the rubber carcass. You can see the tread temperature by clicking on some button while the F9 screen is displayed (can't remember which button).

Now if you lower the air pressure inside the carcass it will heat up more. Raising the pressure will stiffen the carcass and it wont heat up so fast. Less deformation.
I'm no expert on tyre physics, but it does sound plausible that the tread has to work more with higher pressure inside the tyre and that in turn would cause more heating. Whether this would make a significant change in the whole carcass temperature I doubt.

Quess I have some testing to do... Now if I only could remember what button to press to get those tread temperatures..
March Hare
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Quote from Zen321 :And ricing is nothing related to drifting. It is just for the show to have some huge bodykits and a spoiler, but it doesn't do anything good for the car.

Fixed it for ya
March Hare
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Quote from bradj234 :LFS is a Great Racing And Drifting Simulator, Anyone Who Thinks Drifting Is Not A Test Of Skill Is, For Lack Of A Better Word An Idiot.

Any Of You Anti 'Ricers' Ever Drifted A REAL Car? Its Not As Simple As Driving In A Straight Line, Especially Trying Not To Slide Into Walls At 100 Km/h, You Really Have To Try And Restle It Around The Track With Skill. Anyone Can Drive In A Straight Line, Just Some Faster Than Others. With Drifting You Either Can Or You Cant Simple As That, Which Suggests That All You Anti 'Ricers' Have Tried AND FAILED.

Bunch Of Whiners

And quess what kind of an idiot bumped up this P.O.S thread after it had been dead and forgotten for almost a year...

A ricing drifter.
Way to go! You sure are making a very strong case in favour of drifters.
March Hare
S2 licensed
Correcting your stands again, GT2 requires a Gold license.

http://www.raceauthority.com/servers.asp
March Hare
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If there are non in the Leagues & Events section then how about starting your own?
March Hare
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Yet another scooby with loads of powAh... seems the only thing it can do is burn rubber. A bit meh if you ask me.
March Hare
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Only if they model all the possible drawbacks too.
March Hare
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Well, I've yet to see a valid idea posted to an old topic ridiculed.
This user however picks up a three month old argument and continues it.
March Hare
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What some of you rim fanatics are forgetting is that different rims have different physical properties.

I'm all for the idea of adding stupid body kits, 22" bling rims and surfboards to the cars, just as long as all the physical properties they have are added. Like more drag, more weight, effing up the cars aerodynamical balance etc.

All this will take humongous amounts of time to code. So I hope the devs will keep on perfecting the physics engine before thay add all these stupid nonrace abortions to LFS.
March Hare
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Quote from NotAnIllusion :Well, it'd be one helluva bang hitting the ground from coupla hundred meters up

Nothing new there. We already have the red and white barriers which give the same effect.
March Hare
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I believe touge is a Japanese word for a mountain pass.

Idiot drifters who want to sound cool to their like minded friends use it to describe a steep road with multiple hairpins.

A mountain ring road, on which you could do continuous laps, would be nice.

A search feature for the forums would be nice too... Oh wait, we already got one.
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